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		<title>MACH DUNES- THE DMK TAPES III</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 16:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Will Smith</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In this third and final part of my interview with David McLay Kidd about Mach Dunes (part 1 and part 2, here), the architect refutes one of my and others&#8217; main criticisms of the course- an unwieldy routing with lots of blind shots and long transitions between greens and tees. It was my thought that [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_2153" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 551px"><a href="http://punchbowlgolf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Mach_Dunes_16.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-2153 " style="border: 1px solid black; margin-top: 4px; margin-bottom: 4px;" title="Mach_Dunes_16" src="http://punchbowlgolf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Mach_Dunes_16.jpg" alt="" width="541" height="360" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">THE SIXTEENTH AT MACH DUNES</p></div>
<p>In this third and final part of my interview with <a href="http://www.dmkgolfdesign.com/" target="_blank">David McLay Kidd</a> about Mach Dunes (<a href="http://punchbowlgolf.com/2010/02/mach-dunes-the-dmk-tapes/" target="_blank">part 1</a> and <a href="http://punchbowlgolf.com/2010/02/mach-dunes-the-dmk-tapes-ii/" target="_blank">part 2</a>, here), the architect refutes one of my and others&#8217; main criticisms of the course- an unwieldy routing with lots of blind shots and long transitions between greens and tees. It was my thought that if David and his team had compacted the routing at <a href="http://www.machrihanishdunes.com/about/" target="_blank">Mach Dunes</a> and created a shorter course (7,200 yards was about the yardage from the tips) that wandered over less of the site, than maybe the environmentalists would have been more willing to make a few concessions and allow slightly more grading in the affected areas, resulting in a more playable and walkable course.</p>
<p>David refutes this by saying that he believed that they would look at it in the complete opposite way, that making the affected areas more compact would increase the overall degradation of the natural environment of the site. He also defends the length by saying that Tom Doak has made building shorter courses &#8220;half trendy&#8221;  and he was trying to build something that would still be a challenge 100 years from now and was different from its 6,400 yard neighbor. If only David was accurate in saying that a trend was developing around shorter courses golf would be in a much better and more sustainable place. (Video after the jump).</p>
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<p>Our conversation shifted to the cost of building an extreme minimalist course like Mach Dunes. David shared that the construction cost of the course was half of what Bandon Dunes  cost a decade earlier. This was partly because of the restrictions and also because it was a project without significant backing.</p>
<p>David is very frank in saying that the course may not meet people expectations if they are hoping for a modern, polished golf course- &#8220;it could be that people&#8217;s expectations are far higher than what the course is not capable of delivering today.&#8221; He goes on to say that Mach Dunes is &#8220;a step way the hell back in time,&#8221; but the fundamentals are there and it will take time for the course to evolve in to greatness.</p>
<p>We also talk about his design at the Gleneagles West development which may open in 2012 and then we talk about an amazing site on the Washington coast that is permitted and was once under construction. Unfortunately the environmental restrictions are such, that in my opinion, a good course could not be built. David poses the question about how far we as golf guys would be willing to go to be able to build a course on sand next to the ocean. And that ultimately is the question. At Mach Dunes, David gives his answer. It is my sincere hope for David and the game of golf, that the course is given the time to evolve and change into the great course that it could be.</p>
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		<title>MACH DUNES- THE DMK TAPES</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 01:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Will Smith</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mach Dunes opened in July of this past year at roughly the same time as Castle Stuart to the north. Neither is in the heart of Scottish golf touring area and so few if any have played them both. I did make it out to the Mull of Kintyre a few weeks before it opened [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_2101" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 563px"><a href="http://punchbowlgolf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Mach-Dunes.jpg"><img class="size-large wp-image-2101" style="border: 1px solid black;" title="Mach Dunes" src="http://punchbowlgolf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Mach-Dunes-1024x768.jpg" alt="" width="553" height="415" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">AN ERODED BUNKER AT MACH DUNES</p></div>
<p style="text-align: left;"><a href="http://www.machrihanishdunes.com/about/" target="_blank">Mach Dunes</a> opened in July of this past year at roughly the same time as Castle Stuart to the north. Neither is in the heart of Scottish golf touring area and so few if any have played them both. I did make it out to the Mull of Kintyre a few weeks before it opened and I had been warned in an email from architect <a href="http://www.dmkgolfdesign.com/home.aspx" target="_blank">David McLay Kidd</a>, to, &#8220;just remember it’s a work in progress not a Fazio-esque insta-course!&#8221; I took this to heart and did not worry about conditioning as I played my way around. (Video and Interview with DMK after the jump)<span id="more-2082"></span><br />
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<p>There were some aspects of Mach Dunes that I thoroughly enjoyed. I thought the bunker work was excellent. The hazards look very natural and the chunks and clods of the faces that had fallen away and eroded really gave the course a rustic and ancient feel. Much has been made of the wild contours on the greens at the Kidd&#8217;s Castle course on the East coast, and similar contours can be found here. I did not find them overwhelming and if kept at the right speed, they will be enjoyable.</p>
<p>There were other elements of the course that I did not like nearly as much, such as its playability and routing. I knew that Kidd had been under very tight environmental restrictions on this project, and when I left the course, I leaned toward believing that if this was the best that could be produced than maybe the land even though it consisted of beautiful dunes should not have been converted into a golf course. Others who have made the trek out to Mach Dunes have had <a href="http://www.golfcoursearchitecture.net/Article/Machrihanish-Dunes/1694/Default.aspx" target="_blank">mixed things to say</a>. This site&#8217;s co-creator Colin Sheehan who played the course just after its opening went further by writing a negative post on golfclubatlas.com, which immediately met with criticism from a number of sources.</p>
<p>I decided to go directly to David McLay Kidd and get the whole story. The result was a very interesting conversation that I recorded and have edited into a series of videos. In this first video, David explains in detail the background of the project. You can clearly hear his passion for this project. While each of the videos are long, I do believe that they shed some light on how Mach Dunes came to be, why the course is the way it is and where golf course design and development is heading in the face of stricter and stricter environmental restrictions.</p>
<p>The second video will cover the decision to build Mach Dunes, the expectations of the golfing public, and a discussion of using sheep to manage the roughs.</p>
<p>The third video will cover the routing and the future of environmentally sensitive golf projects.</p>
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