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	<title>Comments on: CHECHESSEE CREEK &#8211; PART TWO</title>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://punchbowlgolf.com/2009/05/chechessee-creek-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-90</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 14:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it must be on purpose, but the holes all play different. They do that by getting  the details right. Their &quot;template&quot; holes are set up by bunker placement not green contour. Other people just reproduce the same green over and over. I&#039;d rather play C &amp; C holes, which all stand up to repeated play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it must be on purpose, but the holes all play different. They do that by getting  the details right. Their &#8220;template&#8221; holes are set up by bunker placement not green contour. Other people just reproduce the same green over and over. I&#8217;d rather play C &#038; C holes, which all stand up to repeated play.</p>
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		<title>By: phil</title>
		<link>http://punchbowlgolf.com/2009/05/chechessee-creek-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-88</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 18:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ha. that it would.

i just find it a bit odd that this seems to be the one &quot;template&quot; (dislike that word) that they seem to come back to.  perhaps questions for Bill more than anything - but why? is it concious? or happen more organically?  

just trying to dig deeper into design psyche....

thanks for the blog will. i look forward to reading each update.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ha. that it would.</p>
<p>i just find it a bit odd that this seems to be the one &#8220;template&#8221; (dislike that word) that they seem to come back to.  perhaps questions for Bill more than anything &#8211; but why? is it concious? or happen more organically?  </p>
<p>just trying to dig deeper into design psyche&#8230;.</p>
<p>thanks for the blog will. i look forward to reading each update.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 18:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are all great holes and hold up to repeated playing. If I went around only playing C &amp; C courses (or MacD Raynor) would it get a little repetitive? Maybe, but it would be a good life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are all great holes and hold up to repeated playing. If I went around only playing C &#038; C courses (or MacD Raynor) would it get a little repetitive? Maybe, but it would be a good life.</p>
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		<title>By: phil</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 17:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks... whats your general take on revisiting this concept as often as Bill seems to do?  not that its flawed - far from it... but the connaisseur might get bored of seeing it.  is it any different than a CBM use of templates?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks&#8230; whats your general take on revisiting this concept as often as Bill seems to do?  not that its flawed &#8211; far from it&#8230; but the connaisseur might get bored of seeing it.  is it any different than a CBM use of templates?</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://punchbowlgolf.com/2009/05/chechessee-creek-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-85</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 15:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed it is. Good eye. The twelfth at Chechessee is a great short four. The central bunker makes putting your tee shot on the correct side of the fairway an imperative even if you are likely hitting a wedge into the green. I think the main differenve between it and other C &amp; C models is that it is a push up green and therfore missing left or long makes for a very difficult up and down. The green is also more contoured than some of their other versions, with a distinct back right shelf. i have seen (my partner in a playoff) putt into the central bunker. #12 is flat-out a great hole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed it is. Good eye. The twelfth at Chechessee is a great short four. The central bunker makes putting your tee shot on the correct side of the fairway an imperative even if you are likely hitting a wedge into the green. I think the main differenve between it and other C &#038; C models is that it is a push up green and therfore missing left or long makes for a very difficult up and down. The green is also more contoured than some of their other versions, with a distinct back right shelf. i have seen (my partner in a playoff) putt into the central bunker. #12 is flat-out a great hole.</p>
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		<title>By: phil</title>
		<link>http://punchbowlgolf.com/2009/05/chechessee-creek-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-84</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 14:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>will: is that 12th green the CHECHESSEE version of the lion&#039;s mouth or whatever you&#039;d like to call it that you refer to in your Trails write up?  if so, how does it play relative to some of their others??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>will: is that 12th green the CHECHESSEE version of the lion&#8217;s mouth or whatever you&#8217;d like to call it that you refer to in your Trails write up?  if so, how does it play relative to some of their others??</p>
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